Welcome to All About Apprenticeships, the podcast that brings you everything you need to know about the world of apprenticeships.

Presented by business journalist Georgie Frost, and supported by the HomeServe Foundation, All About Apprenticeships will keep you up to date with the latest news, bring you interviews with big name guests, and get up close and personal with apprentices and employers.

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Episode 20:

The Shadow Apprenticeships Minister: getting to know Toby Perkins

In the final episode of series two, award-winning business journalist Georgie Frost chats to the Shadow Minister for Further Education and Skills, Toby Perkins MP, to find out what he makes of the recent cabinet reshuffle, how he views apprenticeships and what he makes of the age old apprenticeships vs university debate.

You can find out more about how the HomeServe Foundation could help you find an apprenticeship here and check out Amazing Apprenticeships and UCAS for up to date information on current apprenticeship vacancies.

And also check out the Government’s apprenticeship hub.

Our host, Georgie Frost

Georgie Frost is a multi-award-winning sport and finance journalist, broadcaster, and presenter, having worked for the UK’s top media organisations, including The Times, talkRadio, BBC and the MailOnline.

Beginning her career as a sports journalist at the Guardian Media Group, Georgie now writes and hosts the This is Money podcast, one of the top five business podcasts on iTunes, This is Moneyball, a podcast that combines business and sport, and most recently All About Apprenticeships.

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Previous guests


Steph McGovern, TV presenter and Journalist

As the main business presenter for BBC Breakfast for almost 10 years, Steph is a highly experienced journalist and tv presenter. In episode 4 of series 1, we sat down with Steph to find out more about her apprenticeship at Black and Decker and how that shaped her career - and gave her the confidence to step in front of the camera.


Gillian Keegan, Apprenticeships and Skills Minister

Gillian Keegan featured in the second-ever episode of All About Apprenticeships. Gillian, a Conservative Party politician and the first female MP for Chichester was appointed as MP Apprenticeship Ambassador in 2019. We spoke to Gillian about her role and her own experience of starting out as an apprentice at the age of 16.


Matt Ketterer, army lead for apprenticeship operations and quality assurance

The British Army has been awarded the top spot in the UK’s top 100 apprenticeship employers, and Matt Ketterer played an integral role in that fantastic achievement. Matt has held roles at the Ministry of Defence, NATO and now Heads up Learning and Development for the British Army. He chatted to us about the Army’s approach to apprenticeships, and what other businesses could learn from this.


Anna Morrison CBE, Director and Founder of Amazing Apprenticeships

After deciding University wasn’t the right route, Anna Morrison decided to prove everyone who told her that University was the only option wrong. In 2010, she launched Amazing Apprenticeships an organisation focused on tackling misconceptions about apprenticeships. Anna has been a recurring guest on All About Apprenticeships, discussing topics ranging from apprenticeships for women to choosing between university and an apprenticeship.


Laura Burley, Apprenticeship Ambassador at the Open University

In her role as Apprenticeship Ambassador at the Open University, experienced public affairs professional, Laura Burley works to open education up to more people through apprenticeships. Laura has featured on several episodes, discussing a wide range of topics including the Apprenticeship Levy, and Spring budget review.


Tim Smith, Director of Communications and Public Affairs at Multiverse

Tim Smith, Director of Communications and Public Affairs at Multiverse, an organisation founded by Euan Blair in 2016 that aims to provide young people with apprenticeships as an alternative to university, has been a frequent guest bringing his views and experience to discuss the latest apprenticeship news.

Other guests include...

Richard Harpin, Founder and CEO of HomeServe

Isa Mutlib, CEO of The BAME Apprenticeship Alliance

Andy Palmer, Founder and CEO of Palmer Automotive Ltd

Karen Woodward, the Employer Relations Deputy Director in the government’s apprenticeships directorate, the Education and Skills Funding Agency

John Frith, Chief People Officer at Checkatrade

Jenny Taylor, the 2020 Apprenticeship Champion of the Year

Mark Donnelly, Head of Apprenticeships and Skills at BAE Systems

Alison Jackson, Head of HR at Paragon Customer Communications

Lizzie Crowley, Senior Skills Advisor at CIPD

Sam Garnham, St John’s Ambulance

John Cope, Director of Strategy, Policy and Public Affairs at UCAS

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